Why the Incredible Hulk is wrong about abortion

Cross-posted from TheLeadingEdge Blog

Earlier this week Salon.com published a letter that was written by actor Mark Ruffalo, who played the Incredible Hulk in the recent Avengers movie.

Ruffalo sent the letter to a pro-abortion protest rally in Mississipi, where it was read aloud to those present. Since then it has been doing the rounds on the Internet.

In light of the glaring logical problems in Ruffalo’s letter, I decided it was worthy of dissection here. Ruffalo’s comments are in the quote boxes, my responses to Ruffalo are found below each quote box.

“I am a man. I could say this has nothing to do with me. Except I have two daughters and I have a mother who was forced to illegally have an abortion in her state where abortion was illegal when she was a very young woman”

Anyone else notice the irony in the fact that he starts by reasserting the old pro-choice slogan that men shouldn’t have a voice in the abortion debate, but then immediately proceeds to prove why such a suggestion is so illogical?

This whole incident (the letter being read at a pro-choice rally, and then being promoted around the Internet by pro-choicer’s) is a classic example of the hypocrisy of the pro-choice movement. A movement which, on the one hand, proclaims that any man who opposes abortion should keep his views to himself, because he is a man and this is a woman’s issue. While at the same time, a man’s gender suddenly becomes irrelevant if he is willing to endorse abortion.

A few weeks back I produced an episode of the Pro-Life Guy which explores this very hypocrisy and it’s many logical shortcomings.

“It cost $600 cash. It was a traumatizing thing for her. It was shameful and sleazy and demeaning”

I’m sorry, I’m a little confused here.

Didn’t he start by telling us that what she was doing was ILLEGAL, and that she was procuring an abortionist who would KILL her unborn child?

Is it really any wonder that Ruffalo’s mother found breaking the law, and paying someone to end the life of her own child to be a traumatizing, shameful and demeaning act?

But what Ruffalo has failed to consider here, is the fact that tens of thousands of women experience exactly the same emotions and feelings about their LEGAL abortions every year. These feelings have nothing to do with the legal status of the abortion, but rather they are connected to the grave reality of what abortion actually is, and how most women are not really making a free decision when they ‘choose’ abortion.

“When I heard the story I was aghast by the lowliness of a society that would make a woman do that. I could not understand its lack of humanity; today is no different.”

So let me get this straight, you think that a culture which outlaws the killing of innocent human children lacks humanity, and such a society shocks you?

“What happened to my mother was a relic of an America that was not free nor equal nor very kind. My mother’s illegal abortion marked a time in America that we have worked long and hard to leave behind. It was a time when women were seen as second rate citizens who were not smart enough, nor responsible enough, nor capable enough to make decisions about their lives. It was a time that deserved to be left behind, and leave it behind we did, or so it seemed.”

And now for the falsehoods.

Abortion was NOT illegal because women were “seen as second rate citizens who were not smart enough, nor responsible enough, nor capable enough to make decisions about their lives” as Ruffalo wrongly claims.

Instead abortion was illegal because of the fact that it involves the deliberate killing of an innocent human being, a fact that we seem to have either forgotten, or have chosen to conveniently overlook for the past few decades.

What Ruffalo also fails to tell his listeners here (perhaps because he isn’t aware?) is the fact that many of the key female leaders of the US suffragette movement were strongly opposed to abortion. Not only did they not seem to have any problem with opposing abortion, but they also viewed it as a harm to female progress.

“We made abortion and a woman’s ability to be her own master a right. That right was codified into law. That law was the law of the land for decades.”

Actually, abortion is NOT a right, and the current abortion legal framework in the US came into existence by way of some dubious judicial activism, not as a result of any democratic process driven by the people. So Ruffalo is wrong on both counts when he claims that “we made abortion… a right”.

Also, I see yet more irony in the fact that Ruffalo chose to use the word “master” here.

Firstly, ‘master’ is a male descriptor, and the way that Ruffalo uses it here (unintentionally) highlights one of the greatest flaws of the pro-choice ideology – the notion that women can find feminine empowerment by imitating lousy men, who have failed abjectly as parents by refusing to take responsibility for the children they have helped to create.

Secondly, many dictionaries describe ‘master’ as meaning a person with the ability or power to use, control, or dispose of something.

Finally, most dictionaries will also list something along the following lines as one of the possible meanings for the word ‘master’: “an owner of a slave”. The tragic irony here of course is found in the fact that, just like slavery, legal abortion also denies an entire class of human persons their fundamental rights.

“My own mother fought to make herself more than a possession; she lived her life as a mother who chose when she would have children, and a wife who could earn a living if she so chose.”

And of course she was absolutely entitled to make such choices, but there’s just one problem: so was her unborn child who was killed by that backstreet abortionist all those years ago.

Sadly, that child never got to exercize any of those same choices for herself(?).

And, as US author Ann B. Ross is famous for saying: “I certainly supported a woman’s right to choose, but to my mind the time to choose was before, not after the fact.”

“I want my daughters to enjoy that same choice. I don’t want to turn back the hands of time to when women shuttled across state lines in the thick of night to resolve an unwanted pregnancy, in a cheap hotel room just south of the state line. Where a transaction of $600 cash becomes the worth of a young woman’s life.”

Once again, I doubt that Ruffalo saw the irony in his saying “I don’t want to turn back the hands of time to when… a transaction of $600 cash becomes the worth of a young woman’s life” – I wonder if he realizes that this applies equally to any innocent unborn female who is killed by a $600 abortion?

“So that is why I am lending my voice to you and your movement today. Because I actually trust the women I know. I trust them with their choices, I trust them with their bodies and I trust them with their children.”

I trust females too Mark. I trust them with their choices, and with their bodies, and with their children.

That’s why I firmly believe that no female should ever be robbed of her body, her choices, or a chance at children of her own because an abortionist kills her while she is still in the womb.

Unlike Ruffalo, I actually believe in equal rights and freedoms for ALL females, not just some of them.

“I trust that they are decent enough and wise enough and worthy enough to carry the right of Abortion and not be forced to criminally exercise that Right at the risk of death or jail time.”

Once again, abortion is NOT a right, no matter how much Ruffalo and other pro-choice activists might wish it to be so.

Secondly, while Ruffalo opposes death or jail time for some females, he does this by, at the same time, supporting a form of legalized death sentence for unborn females.

“There was no mistake in us making abortion legal and available on demand. That was what we call progress”

Try telling that to the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of innocent human beings who have been killed since abortion was legalized in the US.

Or perhaps he could try telling that to the thousands of women who have been physically or psychologically harmed by the abortions they had?

Or maybe he could contact the families of the many US women killed by LEGAL abortions in the USA?

If this is progress, then I’d hate to hear what Ruffalo considers to be societal regression.

“Just like it was no mistake that we abolished institutional racism in this country around the same time”

You mean ‘racism’, as in ‘that period of US history where an entire class of innocent persons was treated as second class citizens, and denied their fundamental human rights and liberties because others decided they didn’t deserve the same rights as the rest of the human family’?

And do you mean ‘abolished’, as in that period of US history where a minority of activists stood up to the majority, and faced all sorts of ridicule and hate for demanding that ALL human persons should have equal protection and rights under US law?

Just checking.

“The easy thing to do is lay low, but then are we who we say we are? Do we actually stand for anything, if what we do stand for is under attack and we say nothing? There is nothing to be ashamed of here except to allow a radical and recessive group of people to bully and intimidate our mothers and sisters and daughters for exercising their right of choice. Or use terrorism and fanaticism to block their legal rights or take the lives of their caregivers. Or design legislation that would chip away at those rights disguised as reinforcing a woman’s health.”

Just a moment ago Ruffalo was talking about that period in US history where a minority of activists stood against the tide of legalized racism in the USA. Now, here he is using the EXACT same sort of insults against pro-lifers as those which were hurled at that minority who took an unpopular stand against those racist laws and ingrained attitudes which failed to respect the rights and dignity of ALL human persons.

When you stand for the truth you have absolutely nothing to fear from being in the unwelcome minority.

“I invite you to find your voice and let it be known that you stand for abortion rights and the dignity of a woman to be the master of her own life and body. I invite you to search your soul and ask yourself if you actually stand for what you say you stand for. Thank you for being here today and thank you for standing up for the women in my life.”

And appropriately, we finish with yet more tragic irony.

Perhaps a more honest final statement from Ruffalo might have read something like this (my additions in bold):

“I invite you to find your voice against the voiceless innocents, and let it be known that you stand for abortion rights and the dignity of a woman to be the master of her own life and body, unless they are a very young woman in the womb; the reason we’re here today is because we stand for the right to kill them. I invite you to search your soul and ask yourself if you actually stand for what you say you stand for, the killing of innocent females in the womb. Thank you for being here today and thank you for standing up for the women in my life,except for my aborted sibling, who, if she was a female, would not have been represented or welcome at this event.

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